0309 Doggerland

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0309 Doggerland

Private Live Chat

9th March, 2021

MEntity: Hello to you, Connor. We are here, now. We can begin.

Connor: Hello again, Michael! ♥ Put on your winter coats, because we are going back to a chilly time period.

Let’s explore the period of intense glaciation which happened after the Fall of Atlantis.

Ireland was popular for older souls who liked being close to Atlantis without actually having to live there. It was not even an island, yet, due to lower sea levels - you could have walked from Ireland, across Great Britain, to the coast of Europe without need of a boat. After Atlantis fell, many surviving Atlanteans settled in Ireland, and in a session with Janet E, you said, “MEntity: It could be said that Ireland is the sole survivor of Atlantis and did become its surrogate after the fall.”

After the Fall of Atlantis, Ireland became very chilly. Sometime around 30,000 BCE, the Last Glacial Maximum began. Glaciers expanded across North America, Asia, and Europe, forcing the people of Ireland to abandon their home. By 20,000 BCE, the Last Glacial Maximum was at its height, and no one lived in Ireland because it was completely buried under glacial ice. Eventually, the glaciers receded, and Humans are believed to have returned to Ireland sometime around 7,000 BCE.

You mentioned an ecological collapse in Ireland around 2,000 BCE which affected the ancient Druids, and in that same exchange, you confirmed most of those Druids were the descendants of Atlanteans. This strongly suggests the people who returned to Ireland around 7,000 BCE were the ‘same’ people (direct descendants) who originally abandoned Ireland to flee the glaciers.

Question ONE: Can you describe the exodus from Ireland during the Last Glacial Maximum? Where did the people of Ireland/Atlantean descendants live while Ireland was buried under ice? How did they deal with the Ice Age?

Question TWO: Can you describe the return of the people of Ireland/Atlantean descendants to Ireland after the ice subsided? How different was this group from the original people who had to abandon Ireland millennia earlier?

Question THREE: Between approximately 16,000 and 8,000 years ago, there existed a region of swampy lagoons, marshlands, rivers, gently sloping hills, and densely wooded valleys which connected the east coast of Great Britain all the way to what is now Denmark. This supposedly idyllic region is known as Doggerland and it is currently submerged underneath the North Sea due to higher sea levels, and also partially due to a devastating tsunami in 6,000 BCE which washed much of Doggerland away. However, while it was above water, Doggerland was home to many people.

Can you please describe the people of Doggerland and what it was like to live there?

Question FOUR: Did a past life of mine ever live in Doggerland during this time? If so, can you describe my experience of that region?

MEntity: 

In response to ONE: An exodus due to climate change tends to happen slowly over time, not all at once or in a panic. Most climate change, even when dramatic, takes a lifetime. Though technology will help bridge the hurdles to quality living in regions affected by climate, we still see an exodus from the Southwestern United States over time.

Migration was in many directions, but mostly south toward France, Spain and even into Africa. Most did not have to deal with the ice age because they had moved to territories that were not as affected.

In response to TWO: The population that returned to Ireland was more mature in Soul Age at this point. The return was slow but brought with it a rich range of lore and truth and knowledge gathered from other places.

In response to THREE: The region in question was quite attractive to those who had ties to Sirius in some way. This was quite lovely and was romantic.

Tree houses were of primary housing at the time.

Rope walkways and paths, and an intricate delivery system using running waters.

Connor: Oh, that sounds beautiful! Ever since I recently learned about Doggerland, I have been obsessed with it.

MEntity: 

Life was quite idyllic and peaceful, but disease was a problem that would be difficult to overcome.

In response to FOUR: We think we found two lives in the region. One who spent her life creating clay representations of all occupants of the region. This became a creative prompt to begin what might be considered a census for the region and a means for all to be heard and represented in any progress and development.

One of the reasons for such attraction by those with direct ties to Sirius was the use of trees as homes as were once used in original home.

If Doggerland could be reconstructed in a way to view it as it was during that time, it would be quite similar to regions where "we" grew in Sirius.

The other life we found focused on remedies and treatment for sickness that had become more of a problem for the region due to, we think, mosquitos or excrement from a local bird.

Connor: Mosquitoes: proof that Tao makes mistakes.

MEntity: We had our own list of such "proof" among our fragments. We appreciate the humor.

Connor: LOL we just might explore your list of "proof" in a future exchange.

MEntity: 

Sweat is one. We did not enjoy sweating.

We must conclude here for today. Good day to you, Connor. Goodbye, for now.

Connor: LOL

Thank you so much! Excellent work, Michael and Troy!

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By the time Our Origins is published, I think Troy's causal body will be incredibly buff due to all the Akashic Records heavy lifting this project requires.

This was a lovely exchange, and it went in a couple different directions I was not expecting, such as the reference about migration away from the southwest United States. I love when Michael can tie these explorations to modern day. The bit at the end about sweat and mosquitoes was also unexpected, and quite hilarious.

I've been meaning to take a look at Ireland in the aftermath of the Fall of Atlantis. While working on Our Origins, I learned about the Last Glacial Maximum, and when I studied maps depicting the glaciation at the time, I noticed Ireland completely buried underneath an ice sheet. Just about all of Great Britain was buried, too, except the southernmost area (Cornwall to East Anglia) and parts of the Midlands. It was clear the people living there had to leave, and they would not return for more than ten thousand years, which sounds like a fascinating story.

@Janet has some lovely blog entries which go into more detail about the people who returned to Ireland after the ice melted: "My Trip to Ireland" and "Artisan Cults in Ireland." In those sessions, Michael describes a minor wave of non-terrestrial interaction in Ireland, 5,500 BCE (7,500 years ago), in which the Caretakers taught innovative agricultural techniques to the locals, no doubt helping to anchor Ireland's newly returned/returning population. In one of these sessions, Janet even asked Michael if the timing of these events was due to the movement of glaciers, and Michael replied in the affirmative, which is part of what led to today's session.

I was on the fence over whether or not to include questions about Doggerland in this session, and I am glad I did! What a gem. Some call Doggerland the "Atlantis" of Europe due to how it eventually sank. Unlike Atlantis, however, Doggerland's inundation occurred slowly and naturally as a result of climate change.

Evidence of Doggerland's existence began surfacing in the early 20th Century. One of the most notable pieces of evidence came in 1931, when a trawler removed some peat from the bottom of the North Sea, and a barbed antler-point spear-tip was recovered from the peat. Much more recently, a fragment of a Neanderthal's skull was recovered from the North Sea, dated to at least 40,000 years ago, so it seems Doggerland has gone through multiple cycles of being accessible and inaccessible.

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- Approximate map of Doggerland. Note how the Rhine and the River Thames are merely the tips of a much larger river system which is now subsumed by ocean. The same is true of the River Severn near the English/Welsh border and the River Barrow in southwest Ireland.

More in-depth studies of Doggerland are ongoing, including renewed efforts to recover samples and accurately map its boundaries. Currently, there are plans to expand wind farms into the North Sea (some are already built) in an effort to help transition to green energy, but this could be complicated by the increasing acknowledgment of Doggerland's archaeological value.

I was pleasantly surprised by what Michael had to say about life in Doggerland, particularly the connection to Sirius, although I was not surprised to learn that I lived there. Like I said to Michael, I have been obsessed with Doggerland ever since the moment I learned of its existence (the same is true of Pompeii/Herculaneum), and that sort of resonance is usually my cue to realize there are likely memories involved. I really loved the idea of living in tree houses connected by rope bridges. It reminded me of a fun outdoor obstacle course, but easier to traverse. The water-based delivery system sounded very interesting, as well, and I may follow up one of these days.

There was even some synchronicity involved, because almost at the exact same time I learned about Doggerland, one of the youtube historians I watch released his own video about the 6,000 BCE tsunami from the Storegga Slides which devastated the area.