0809 Incan Peru and Clockpunk Bio-Nanotech Parallels

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0809 Incan Peru and Clockpunk Bio-Nanotech Parallels

Note from Archivist: The TLE Library is primarily an archive of sessions channeled by Troy Tolley, and all work presented here should be assumed to be channeled by Troy unless a note like this one is included. 

Babylove (aka Nick Sweeney) was mentored by Troy, and participates in the TLE Community as a student. We have elected to post sessions channeled by Nick in this library if shared within TLE because these sessions often continue conversations begun with a session channeled by Troy or vice versa. Other content channeled by Nick may be found by searching for ChannelNS.

Channeled by Nick Sweeney on August 9th 2022:

MEntity: Hello, Kurtis. We are here, now, and can begin.

Kurtis: Hello Michael and Nick. 

Let’s start.

You confirmed a branch from 1781 where Tupac Amaru II succeeded in an Indigenous Incan Revival. This makes me wonder if these parallels actually originate from 1529-32 or 1572, where the Incas might never have been destroyed in the first place. Is this true?

MEntity: That would be correct, yes.

Kurtis: Great, got that one then.

To be clear both those dates are accurate, yes?

MEntity: Yes, 1781 and 1529-32.

Kurtis: That's what I thought as well.

You said there is a branch from 1728. I found a possible branch from 1729 where the Natchez Revolt might never have happened, or alternatively could have succeeded, thus bringing about a continued peace between France and the Indigenous peoples populating what became New Louisiana.

Is this valid? If so, did this branch merge into the Incan Peru branch, due to the focus on indigenous reconciliation? Or a different branch?

MEntity: This would have been where the Natchez Revolt succeeded and the culture evolved into a "New Louisiana". And yes, we think that is correct, that this line merged into the Incan Peru branch.

Kurtis: How lovely, wow.

How has this line of reality where Peru is an indigenous major world power evolved, and what is it like today?

MEntity: As you can imagine, the world is very different from how you know it, now. Although, in a few hundred years, at the nearest, your world may merge with this line.

Kurtis: Oh, a lil while's away then.

MEntity: You can think of this world as one where there is an equality of powers, so to speak, between the young souls and the older souls. Rather than the Young completely dismissing and destroying the indigenous peoples' way of life, they realized they could learn much from them and use much of their knowledge and wisdom to support their own advancement. So, this world has villages, towns, cities, etc. with two centers within each: one center is that of political and governmental structure similar to the one you know, now, and the second center being what might be called the "ecological heart and soul" of that area. These "power centers" inform each other, and the growth and advancement of the Young Souls is guided by that of the older and kept in balance by the older.

Kurtis: That seems like a "perfect" system that the Indigenous would come to design if they had been given the time and space. I also find it fascinating how different the world is between where the Inca survived vs the Aztec.

When I tried visualizing that world, I saw indigenous circular economies and council governments, with 3d Holographics and advanced climate solutions, such as widespread desalination and indigenous lifestyles lived by pretty much everyone. I also saw Africa did much better there.

And out of curiosity, I must ask if I have an incarnation line there?

MEntity: Yes, these are fair descriptions of that other world where the Inca's survived. This world along with one other that we have discussed with you (where there is more of an equality between East and West) all merge between 2400 and 2500.

Kurtis: Oh, so all three of the parallels would merge then: Crystal-powered world where Aztec survive; Indigenous Reconciliation where Inca survive; and the Communitarian Easternized World.

Wow, that is bound to be quite an exciting time for convergence.

MEntity: Yes, correct. And yes, you have incarnations in the Inca line. Or it might be better to say you HAD incarnations here, as by now, you no longer have "fragments" extant, there.

Kurtis: Oh? Hmm. I'll have to think about that.


Kurtis: I'll move on to my next qs:

Are these branches valid as branches into the Indigenous Peru world? 1676: where the Indigenous peoples won the King Philip’s War or Bacon’s Rebellion and facilitated the creation of a more indigenous United States of America. 1759: a branch where France won the Battle of Quebec instead of Britain, thus allowing for a convergence into that Indigenous New Louisiana branch from 1729. 1816: a branch where the Inca Plan succeeded during the creation of Peru, appointing an indigenous head of state instead of a colonial white man.

MEntity: No, for 1676. Yes for 1759 and 1816.

Kurtis: Okay, noted thank you.

We’ve previously established two branches from 1433 and 1504 that moved towards the Clockpunk Industrial Revolution parallel. I think there is another from the 17th Century, around 1680, where the fascination with astronomy and pendulum grandfather clocks grew immensely.

I’d also like to take a look at the aesthetics of that Clockpunk world today. I have seen a world that could be said to look very white and futuristic, towering, with glowing diamond-textured buildings. I think advances in robotics and mechanical engineering were the focus there, so I see a kind of bio-nanotech being the primary technology there. Is this valid? Can you tell me more?

MEntity: Yes, your perception of the trajectory of the 1680 branch would be correct.

Kurtis: I always get giddy when i get a bingo haha. I am sure I was there for that branch.

MEntity: Yes, we would say your sense of the color of these towering structures is fair, and we would add that the white "shimmers" and is often seen as iridescent or rainbow. Bio-nanotech plays a big part in the "culture" of this world, yes, but oddly, so does a more retro-aesthetic. There is a strong "movement" towards honoring the mechanical engineering and aesthetics of old. So, within and around these towering, futuristic structures are also throwbacks to eras long gone. The people there find great comfort and inspiration in this. This would be similar to how in some episodes of Star Trek, attention is brought to some of the relics of the past with which some of the characters have sentimental attachment. It is more pronounced in this Clockpunk world.

Kurtis: Oh wow, that's beautiful.

I actually felt sad thinking about how the clockpunk technology of old might just be forgotten. The sense of adventure and play and expression and tinkering and experimentation with those structures seemed like a sad thing to let go of. But it seems the people there thought the same!

MEntity: Yes, it could not be forgotten. It is honored and exalted alongside every other sense of progress and evolution.

Kurtis: I sincerely love that.

And on the next question:

I’d like to confirm this as a branch towards the Communitarian Easternized world: 1683 - The Great Turkish War never happens.

MEntity: 1683: no

Kurtis: Oh wow a bit surprised. Seemed like a similar case to 1593. But noted.

I have found possible branches from 1708, 1759, 1779 and 1797, in which France could have invaded England, but failed. Are these valid branches? If so, have these merged into the parallels where England fell into division?

MEntity: These are not valid branches.

Kurtis: Seems the alternate history forums I find on the Internet were right that invading England is a fool's errand.

I have also found branches from 1696, 1715, 1719 and 1745, in which the Jacobites could have overthrown the King of England. Are these valid branches? If so, have these merged into the parallels where England fell into division?

MEntity: For 1696 this would be correct. Not for the others.

Kurtis: Ah, 1696 was the assassination attempt.

Now onto France:

I have thought of these branches as possibly merging into the French Civil War and Division path: 1757, with the attempted assassination of King Louis XV. 1649, with France’s Civil War known as the Fronde, throwing the country into deeper divisions. 1685, where after the controversial revocation of the Edict of Nantes, King Louis XIV might have died or been assassinated.

MEntity: Yes for 1757 and 1685.

Kurtis: Thank you.

I believe that's all the time we have today.

MEntity: We must conclude here for today, Kurtis. We will continue to work with you through you and our channels to continue your project. Good day to you and goodbye for now.


This session finally helped me confirm a set of parallels I've pondered since 2019: what if the Native American cultures remained dominant and integrated with the West?

Take a look at my description of this reality 3 years ago:


I cannot accurately grasp when it diverged, but I would guess there are two pivotal  points: between 1519-21 CE, and between 1763 and 1830 CE. It resulted from an empowering, spiritual revolution of Native American peoples to evolve beyond the wounding blows to their civilization from their own strife, and the invasive conquests of Europeans, particularly the English and Spanish. This resulted in a firm recovery of Space and Place for the indigenous. This rippled out across the world to inspire different civil wars and social revolutions, especially in Spain. From what I can tell, the United States wasn't founded here. Instead, the Indigenous Americans developed their own official nations."

It's so neat when I get branches I thought about for ages and then forgot, validated and clarified. 

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