Pizza

Yes, this finally happened, and we can all thank Petra for it. She offered me this session on the condition that I ask about pizza. Enjoy!

Private Live Chat
January 6, 2026

MEntity: Hello to you, Connor. We are here, now. We can begin.

ConnorB: 

Hello again, Michael.

Remember when you bragged ten years ago about being able to talk about pizza? Even if you say “We were telling the truth, not bragging,” I don’t think you’ll change my mind. Just remember you did this to yourself. On September 3, 2016, in a private session with Janet E., you said the following: “MEntity: We can turn "pizza" into a topic-length discussion. There is always something interesting, beautiful, and deep about nearly everything.

Remember? Surely you did not dangle that piece of bait without knowing someone would eventually bite? Since you’re always telling us to validate, you’ll have no choice but to agree that asking you about pizza is Good Work.

Talk to me about Pizza, Michael. What do you find “interesting, beautiful, and deep” about pizza? Answer however you like. The floor is yours.

MEntity: 

Yes, we remember.

First, we will say that we were telling the truth, not bragging, and we will also say that you are correct, this invitation was likely inevitable to be accepted.

As with everything in existence, we find pizza to be interesting, beautiful, and deep because it can be a metaphorical map of how consciousness works when given freedom within structure.

Pizza begins with a base. This base matters. Without this base, nothing else can be cohesive. Too thin and it collapses, but too thick and it can dominate. This is Essence. Essence is the platform that can hold your experiences without needing to control them. Many fragments forget this part and spend most of their lives rearranging toppings, aiming for symmetry and perfection or the highest ideals and expectations.

But like the base, Essence is there to hold. The mess or precision of the toppings are of no concern.

The sauce is interpretation. Sauce is meaning. Two people can have the same base but have radically different experiences depending on how the sauce is applied. Too much, the toppings can drown. Too little, the pizza can feel dry and unfinished. Sauce is Personality deciding how to relate to what exists.

Cheese is bonding. Cheese is intimacy. Cheese melts, stretches, and binds disparate things into something cohesive. Without cheese, toppings can remain separated, individuated, never quite a part of the whole. Too much cheese can numb, and too little can feel emotionally empty. Cheese is the capacity to let experience CONNECT rather than remain compartmentalized or scattered.

And toppings are choice. Toppings are creativity. Toppings are your lifetime themes, preferences, wounds, delights, desires, cultures, rebellions, comforts, etc. No topping is inherently wrong. What matter is whether the topping is chosen consciously or piled on out of habit, or fear, or imitation. Many fragments live their entire lives with someone else's toppings and then call it their own tastes.

Pizza, like life, tends to be communal. It is rarely made for only one person in isolation. It is to be shared, negotiated, debated, and laughed over. Pizza helps ask the questions, "do we agree, can we agree, can we compromise, can we allow differences at the same table?" This is why pizza appears to often in gatherings. There is something about it that mirrors the social contract in edible form.

Pizza, like life, can be forgiving and flexible. For example, cold pizza still nourishes. Reheated pizza is still recognizable. Even "bad" pizza is usually still pizza. This reflects the resilience of living life and returning day after day to a new slice, or a cold slice, or a "bad" slice, etc. You can make poor choices, uneven choices, rushed choices, and still extract nourishment from them, even if it is later.

But pizza is also temporal. A pie or a slice cannot be edible forever. It changes. Like life, it must be eaten while you are present, in the moment, and not idealized and put off for another day, another day, and yet another. Pizza is a lesson of NOW.

Pizza does not try to be precious or sacred, and yet it somehow becomes precious and sacred through the sharing.

Pizza is far from rare, yet it is one of the most cherished of meals.

Pizza never requires perfection for it to be real and meaningful.

Pizza is a reminder that depth and value do not always require difficulty or suffering.

To expand upon this base exploration of Pizza, we can say the following, both as a fairly legitimate reflection, but also as a form of play with our students:

For those who prefer PLAIN CHEESE PIZZA, it could be said that this points to an Essence that values clarity and direct experiences. These fragments may tend to strip life down to what matters, sometimes early, and sometimes after many detours. They may slide into avoidance of complexity and into emotional minimalism, but may also bring life into perspective with elegant simplicity.

For those who prefer PEPPERONI PIZZA, they may have strong relationships to comfort and familiarity. There is a preference for loyalty to what works. These fragments may integrate intensity without drama and be assertive without being exotic. They may have a strong moving or emotional center and become very resistant to change, or simply find grounding in pleasures.

For those who prefer SUPREME or EVERYTHING PIZZA, they want many toppings, variety, texture, contrast, and this often reflects curiosity and experimentation. Artisans, Sages, and Scholars tend toward these pizzas. This can reflect a level of overwhelm and scattered focus and difficulty committing, but also a kind of synthesis, playfulness, and multidimensional living.

For those who prefer VEGAN or VEGETARIAN PIZZA, there is a reflection here if conscious choice and ethical alignments as priorities, not just in food preferences. These fragments may tend to orient themselves toward a cohesive harmony between values and actions. They may be sensitive to impact, systems, and interdependence. This can lead to rigidity and isolation, but also integrity as a main ingredient.

For those who prefer HAWAIIAN PIZZA, there tends to be an unapologetic rejection of consensus reality. They tend to be comfortable like what they like, even when others object. This often reflects a deep confidence in Essence and a willingness to disrupt norms. Sometimes this can look like, or be simply contrarianism for its own sake, but also authenticity without defense.

For those who prefer MEAT LOVERS PIZZA, it can reflect a strong relationship with intensity and appetite, and a lack of fear for what one desires. There tend to be survival themes in their lives that require high energy. Warriors and Kings might be drawn to this. This pizza may reflect an alignment with or a disconnect from domination and consequences, but also may reflect vitality.

For those who prefer WHITE PIZZA, this often reflects those who are inclined to reinterpret meaning rather than reject structure. They are not interested in removing the base, but they alter the lens. This pizza can reflect an introspective, subtle, and nuanced approach to life that can become emotionally distant or quite sophisticated with discernment.

For those who prefer DEEP DISH, wen can say that this may reflect deep immersion and commitment. This is for people who do not skim life, but enter it fully. They may prefer experiences with more depth. This can also reflect feeling heavy and stuck, or an inclination toward devotion and being thorough in life.

For those who prefer THIN CRUST, this may correlate with a desire for agility and responsiveness. These fragments may prefer movement, speed, and clarity. They may wish to process quickly and adapt easily. This can reflect an avoidance of emotional weight, or simply flexibility and lightness.

And finally, we add two additional reflections:

For those who FOLD THE SLICE, this tends to reflect practicality and fragments who prioritize function over form. They are less concerned with how something looks and more concerned with whether it works.

And for those who EAT THE CRUST FIRST OR LAST, we can say that one's behavior about the crust often relates to foundations and endings. Eating it first can indicate a need to secure a connection to Essence before enjoyment, and eating it last can reflect savoring or procrastination. Leaving the crust entirely often mirrors how one handles obligations vs pleasures.

If someone were to insist there is only one correct pizza, one correct topping combination, one correct way to eat it, this would rarely have anything to do with the actual pizza. It would have to do with their fear of differences.

Pizza, like our teachings, was never meant to standardize. It is all meant to demonstrate that structure does not eliminate freedom, and freedom does not require compliance or chaos.

We must conclude here for today, Connor. Good day to you. And in keeping with our tone and topic, enjoy your next slice with us in mind. We will always meet you at the table (or on the floor, or couch, etc).

Goodbye, for now.

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Well, I'll be darned.

I never doubted that Michael could pull it off, but I figured they would talk about pizza for maybe 20 minutes, then they'd open the floor and the rest of the session would be shaped by further questions. I had to prepare for that possibility, so I came up with some whacky ones. Is there "pizza" on the Astral (or Causal)? Can "pizza" be found on other planets? Did Atlantis have "pizza?" Are they all that different from our forms of pizza? Have any of Michael's fragments ever tried pizza? Did they, um, like it? I was really scraping the bottom of the barrel.

I did not expect Michael to talk nonstop about pizza for the full sixty minutes, which is exactly what they did. Nor did I expect the pizza-by-pizza breakdown. That was fun.

If Sages indeed tend towards "Everything Pizza," I am living evidence that exceptions exist. If I feel like dogpiling too many toppings together, I'll just make a burrito bowl. Not a big fan of meat or veggies on my pizza. If there is a Hell, it is surely full of pepperoni pizza. I prefer either pineapple pizza or just plain cheese, and I found the pineapple pizza description to be the more relatable of the two.

Oh yes, pineapple on pizza is the shit. I didn't even realize it was controversial until fairly recently. It goes so well with tomato sauce.